Frequently Asked Questions

Engineering Transfer Program at ESU

ESU Department of Physics

Entrance Requirements
  • I want to enter ESU's 3-2 Engineering program. What do I need to take in high school to be prepared?
  • Can I transfer into the program at ESU from another school?
  • Can I enter ESU in the spring instead of the fall?
    Transferring to Penn State
  • After I finish 3 years at ESU, where do I go?
  • What courses do I need to take at ESU?
  • How well do I have to do in the ESU coursework to be considered "successful" enough to transfer to Penn State?
  • How do I arrange the transfer to Penn State?
  • Can I transfer before completing three years at ESU?
  • Can I transfer after completing more than three years at ESU?
  • If I can't go to Penn State, what other options are there for me?
    Graduation
  • Am I eligible for financial aid for the fifth year?
  • After I finish the 3 years at ESU, do I get a degree from ESU?
  • After I finish the entire 5 years, do I get a degree from ESU?
    Other Information
  • What is engineering?
  • Where do I get more information?

  • I want to enter ESU's 3-2 Engineering program. What do I need to take in high school to be prepared?

    In the 3-2 program, students must complete a rigorous series of math and science courses for three years at ESU before completing the final two years at Penn State. In order to complete the first three years on schedule, one must be prepared to take calculus and physics during their first term on campus. As such, make sure you have taken geometry, algebra and trigonometry (and done well) before enrolling. If you have the opportunity to take calculus and/or physics, do so. It will make your life a lot easier once you enroll.

    Can I transfer into the program at ESU from another school?

    You can, but you will not be guaranteed admission to Penn State (assuming you've met the criteria above). That guarantee is only made to those who enter ESU as a freshman without credits from another university. If you were enrolled at another college previously, even if it was Penn State or another PA state system university with its own 3-2 engineering transfer agreement with Penn State, and you want to go to Penn State to complete the engineering degree, you will have to apply as a regular transfer student.

    Important: Just because you are admitted into the 3-2 engineering transfer program as an engineering major at ESU does not mean you are eligible for the automatic transfer to Penn State.

    Can I enter ESU in the spring instead of the fall?

    Yes. As long as you enter as a freshman, without credit from another university, you are still eligible for guaranteed admission (see criteria above). Your 3-year time limit starts when you enroll at ESU.

    After I finish 3 years at ESU, where do I go?

    At any point in the program you are free to transfer to any engineering program. However, you must apply to the desired school and your admission is not guaranteed. On the other hand, after three years of successful (see below) coursework at ESU, you are guaranteed admission to Penn State (main campus) as part of an agreement ESU has with Penn State.

    You also have the option of staying at ESU. Although ESU does not offer an engineering degree, you can stay and obtain a degree in physics or industrial physics. The first three years of the industrial physics is very similar to the first three years of the 3-2 engineering program. So, you can stay and graduate in a year if you'd like. Some people then go on to graduate school and get a graduate degree in engineering.

    What courses do I need to take at ESU?

    The only courses you are required to take (and pass with a C or better) at ESU are: calculus I and II, calculus-based physics I, and general chemistry (for most majors). You are also required to complete 76 transferable credits within your three years at ESU (a standard load is 90 credits within three years).

    However, the more courses you can complete here at ESU, the better. The courses you can take at ESU are spelled out in the 3-2 agreement between Penn State and ESU. Courses listed that you do not take at ESU you will have to pick up at Penn State, which will prolong the time it takes to finish your degree beyond the expected two years (five years total).

    Note: If you want an ESU degree in addition to the Penn State degree, you also have to meet the general education requirements of ESU. Many of the general education courses at ESU will also count for the general education program at Penn State. However, you have to be careful. Pay close attention and work with your ESU advisor if you want to have as much overlap as possible.

    How well do I have to do in the ESU coursework to be considered "successful" enough to transfer to Penn State?

    For most of the engineering majors, you need to maintain a 3.00 grade point average (if you retake a course, the original grade is included along with the grade you earn when repeated). A higher GPA (3.50) is required for aerospace engineering, bioengineering, computer engineering*1, civil engineering*2 and mechanical engineering. A lower GPA (2.75) is sufficient for Agricultural and Biological Engineering and the majors in the College of Earth and Mineral Sciences (environmental systems, materials science, mining, and petroleum and natural gas). For all engineering majors except those in the Earth and Mineral Sciences, you need a C or beter in calculus I and II, calculus-based physics I, and general chemstry I.

    You also have to finish at least 76 transferable and applicable credits at ESU.

    Notes:
    *1: Students entering PSU in the Fall of 2008 will no longer need to meet the higher GPA requirement in Computer Engineering.
    *2: Students entering PSU prior to Fall of 2010 (entering ESU prior to Fall of 2007) do not need to meet the higher GPA requirement in Civil Engineering.

    How do I arrange the transfer to Penn State?

    Every fall semester, we will provide Penn State with a list of students who have indicated their desire to participate in the 3-2 program. So, if you are enrolled at ESU as a pre-engineering major, Penn State is already aware of you. You will also be assigned an advisor at Penn State. You should contact the department corresponding to your intended major and make arrangements to meet with your advisor to discuss your credits and course schedule well before your first semester at Penn State.

    After the fall of your third year (or earlier in special situations -- see below), you need to submit an application (available on the Web, which requires you to set up a login account) to the admissions office of Penn State (deadline is February 1). The application is supported by (1) your final high school record, (2) Two copies of the official ESU transcript (including fall grades), (3) schedule of courses for the spring term, and (4) the check sheet filled out with the grades of courses taken and which are planned for spring semester. The check sheet is completed by you (although you might wish to discuss it with your ESU advisor beforehand) and sent to the Penn State Office of Admissions. At the end of the third year, you need to forward two official ESU transcripts to Penn State.

    For more information, see the Transferring from a 3-2 Program page at Penn State.

    Can I transfer before completing three years at ESU?

    You are free to transfer whenever you'd like. However, you are only guaranteed admission to Penn State after you have completed a 76 transferable and applicable credits at ESU (which, for most majors, includes a C in calculus I and II, physics I and chem I) with whatever minimum GPA is required (typically 3.0). In fact, for chemical engineering, it is recommended that you apply after 2.5 years, so you don't fall too far behind in the chemical engineering coursework, the first of which is offered in the spring.

    Can I transfer after completing more than three years at ESU?

    As mentioned above, you are free to transfer whenever you'd like. However, after three years you are no longer guaranteed admission to Penn State. At that point, you need to apply as a regular transfer student.

    If I can't go to Penn State, what other options are there for me?

    There are several reasons why you wouldn't be able to go to Penn State. It may be that your GPA is too low or you transferred into the ESU program from another university program. However, just because you aren't eligible for the automatic acceptance into Penn State does not mean you have to give up your dream of engineering. You can always apply for transfer into an engineering program, either at Penn State or some other engineering school, like Temple, Lehigh or Pitt.

    You might also find that you love ESU too much to leave, or you decide that you prefer to graduate in four years rather than five. In those cases, you can stay at ESU and graduate with a degree in Industrial Physics. That program, unique to ESU, mirrors the engineering program for the first three years and prepares you for physics jobs in industrial settings. It also prepares you for graduate programs in engineering.

    Am I eligible for financial aid for the fifth year?

    Financial aid regulations consider engieering to be a four-year program. Consequently, some government-provioded financial aid may not be available for a total of more than four years of study. You may, however, be eligible for merit-based scholarships after completing one year of study at Penn State.

    After I finish the 3 years at ESU, do I get a degree from ESU?

    No. You only get an ESU if you complete the entire 3-2 program (which includes two years at Penn State) or if you stay at ESU and complete one of the 4-year programs (like Industrial Physics).

    After I finish the entire 5 years, do I get a degree from ESU?

    Once you transfer, you are considered a student of the school you are then attending. Consequently, once you finish the program at that school, you will receive a degree from that school.

    If you graduate from Penn State, having gone through the 3-2 program at ESU, you can apply for a B.A. in physics from ESU, assuming you have met the general education requirements at ESU, which are slightly different from the requirements at Penn State.

    What is engineering?

    For information on engineering and the specialities within engineering, check out the Engineering, Go For It! publication by the American Society for Engineering Education.

    Where do I get more information?

    For more information, you should contact the physics department secretary, Debra Boushell, or the department chairperson, Robert Cohen.

    Last updated: April, 2008.

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